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Transcript
Chad:

What is going on guys? This is Chad from Escape Reality Comics Podcast show. I'm your host Chad and my co-host Kevin. How are you doing today? Good, buddy.

Kevin:

I'm great.

Chad:

So same intro, I think we talked about not doing the intro again and I just did it again. So I'm stuck. What can I say?

Kevin:

It's okay. You're a man of your word literally.

Chad:

I tr ied. I really did.

Kevin:

I except you Chad.

Chad:

Today's titles will be live action talk. So today we're gonna be talking about like, what's happening? We're gonna first talk about Spider Man. I just saw this yesterday in movie theaters. I have to talk about it. I know.

Kevin:

About fucking time.

Chad:

I know, right? I've been wanting to watch this thing forever since it came out. And finally I had the chance my wife surprised me with a ticket. God bless her. And I went I went to see the movie theater actually went to movie theater the first time since COVID actually broke out. No, I take them back. I saw Venom and Carnage with with my wife. So I take that back. I just lied. I lied there. But second time to go into movie theater was to watch Spider Man.

Kevin:

Yeah, hey, that's okay. Watching pretty much to Spider Man.

Chad:

We do. I have I cannot freakin talk that show up enough. That movie was freaking it was really fucking good. It really was fucking good. I expected to be I know. Of course, I expected to be good. I didn't expect to be that fucking good. I saw I was like, holy shit. Okay, this is I think is one of the better MCU movies that they've made for a very long fucking time. So we all know basically, it's above you haven't seen it. You probably don't want to hear this piece. I will actually put a like a timestamp. Where to go from next. If you haven't seen the Spider Man, Homecoming, that's in theaters. I'm gonna make a timestamp. So just go to the next timestamp. And then you will you'll hear us talking about live action anime talk and basically would be really good for anime would be alive. Really good live action anime, but this is your warning. Spoilers alert. Wow. Anyways, we got sound today so we're gonna be having fun with that. So yes, Spider Man. So we all know base we love Spider Man who is basically all about people finding out he was Spider Man. And now he's trying to he's like, oh shit. I need a frickin figure this out right. At the very end. Did you see the end credits? Oh, yes.

Kevin:

Yes. I'm

Chad:

also so you know what I'm talking about when we are getting a venom, right?

Kevin:

Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, Venom venom. I was wasn't sure if he was going to be in this universe, but apparently

Chad:

he is. How do you come to this universe? Do you know?

Kevin:

I think it was during the Doctor Strange stuff. Honestly.

Chad:

No, no, no. So okay, think about this. Doctor. Strange, right? His whole spell was to have everyone forget about Spider Man and Peter Parker. The people that came over and course Peter Parker screwed it up. Right. Well, his whole point was to come. Whoever came over knew about Peter Parker being Spider Man. Right? That was the whole point. Yeah. Somebody can get behind because they had really good you know, villains, villains from other, you know, the first with the first Spider Man and then the Amazing Spider Man. You know, they came over and they knew who Peter Parker was. And they knew who you know, he was Spider Man. So that's why they came over to the MCU universe. Eddie Brock showed up with venom. How does he because in his universe, he doesn't have a spider man or Peter Parker? At all.

Kevin:

Yeah, right. Right.

Chad:

He doesn't he there's not in been a clue that he existed. So why don't you show up?

Kevin:

I don't know. I feel like you know, it was like a given that he was there. But yeah, if you if you have a good answer for it. Go ahead.

Chad:

Well, I have the answer. I just wonder if you will know.

Kevin:

That Well, that was my that was it. Yeah. I just assumed he was yeah, when they showed him okay. Yeah, he's in this universe.

Chad:

Yeah, no, I it confused the hell out of me. After I was watching. I was great. I was like, great. venoms showing up to the MCU this will be frickin awesome. And then I got my car about to drive off right. I'm sitting like, Wait a minute. Why did Eddie Brock show up? The first place was because he didn't have Spider-Man it freakin literally drove me crazy. I was like, why is this happening with this makes no sense. I was about bring up as lazy writing. I was like no Disney MCU with lazy writing. No. That can't be it. I kind of had a backburner. I was like maybe I missed something. Me and the wife what the see a venom 2 write we were high as fuck. So I was thinking maybe I missed some detail. So I went to rent a movie. I ran a movie today I saw Venom and Carnage today and I was rewatching it I was starting to get ticked off by the whole film. I was like there's not one clue why I'm looking for like a Spider Man comic book you know? Maybe because the story right complicated Eddie Brock take a look at it. And he's like, you know, oh, you know Peter Parker Spider Man cuz maybe his universe Spider Man. It's just a comic character. Right. That was this may be thinking of that. Nope, not not not at all. Maybe there's a Peter Parker that he worked with because he's also reporter right? Because you know, Peter Parker is a photographer. No, no, no, no Peter Parker there. This is happening there and Eddy Brock in San Francisco, not in New York City. And there's not been any mention of Spider Man whatsoever. Period. So like how the hell did frickin know this? By the end of the freakin Venom two movie, there's post credits. Okay, yeah. So, me and the wife saw the movie. We did a rookie move because we're high as fuck at this time. We didn't watch the post credit move the post credits scene. So I'm like, okay, you know, so I was an idiot so I was just watching this venom said you know the whole whole dialogue between venom and Eddie Brock at the post credit scenes they're watching a Telemundo soap opera, right about this the Telemundo soap opera. This guy just found out this lady was pregnant and a whole bunch of stuff. And I guess Eddie Brock and Venom were talking about it. As like, you know, Venom said, Well, everyone has a past. And Brock. Well, are you hiding stuff from me? Venom's just like, yeah, 80 Billion Light Years of multiversal other universes basically. So it's like your brain would explode. I'm gonna give you a little tidbit. Right? Soon a little tidbit happen. He saw like the timeline and you've seen other universes and all that stuff. He blinked out he totally like went over and that's when they start freaking out. So within that time have shown him a very short glimpse of what hive knowledge basically is all about. Apparently finds out about Peter Parker and Spider Man. So I guess they bumped out. But I'm still was confused.

Kevin:

Are you talking about the blip for endgame? No, no, no, this

Chad:

is you know when Spider Man when everything was coming over to the MCU universe is just kind of like did a weird little bloop you know?

Kevin:

Yeah. Okay, so you're talking about

Chad:

in the new kind of did that with Eddie Brock on the end of venom 2 at the end credits scene. It kind of like just went crazy. And also he finds himself in New in Mexico and then Venom watch the TV without Spider Man on it with the Daily Bugle and I guess Venom licks the fucking screen. This guy like not creepy at all. But yeah, so yeah, that's apparently is what happened but I'm still confused about it because even with that there's no symbiotes in his universe that I we know of Anyways. Anyways, this is go with that answer. Let's just go with the whole Eddie Brock give a venom gave a little tidbit of information. Not knowing it and breaking went out. But hey, Brightside, we have a venom in the MCU

Kevin:

perfect. Yeah, well, it seems like the party will be there. Yeah, little little chunk blob is left. You know, with that movie, I think you know, I watched it weeks ago. And even then I was trying not to be spoiled by it. So you know, you talked about it before going? And I had to ask it you know, or were you do you know about this movie like The all the details and it made it seem like you didn't have it? Like he didn't really know all the details. Maybe they cast but he didn't really know that what was happening in the movie. So no, I try. I was proud of you.

Chad:

trying to stay away from freakin spoilers for like on tick tock because we're really active on tick tock Facebook, Instagram, basically all the social media outlets, right? He's trying to promote a podcast. And I avoided it like the plague. Yes. In Spider Man. No. I was the like, The Matrix. I did the matrix moves with a bullet come after the guy in the wrong freaking like did backflips and all that stuff? I did that was spoilers.

Kevin:

Yeah, I was worried that you're going to eventually just have to watch it at home not having an experience of the theater. You

Chad:

know? Well, I would have been happy with that too. But still, I wanted to watch it sooner so we can talk about it. And that was the whole thing. I did break my heart with that may dying though.

Kevin:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They did a damn good job with that seem like oh, maybe she's okay. No, she's not okay.

Chad:

Exactly. Like I had the feeling that got me down to the feels. I was like, wow, I was like this hit hard. Because like, you know, with the first Spider Man with Tobey Maguire, right. Freaking Well, you

Kevin:

see him for three or four minutes in the movie.

Chad:

Exactly. There's not like really a connection. So Uncle Ben dies is like, man, you know? Yeah, I mean, it's sad. I feel sorry for Peter Parker. But it's not really like, oh, no, my feelings hurt. You know, it was like, okay, he died. You know, normal sex. Yeah. And then the Amazing Spider Man two might have hit that one hit little bit harder with a winch. Case Stacy dying. I was like, Oh, that one sucked. He was like there but it like it still got to the fields but dude, when that may died that actually hid in the fields and I was like holy crap.

Kevin:

I'm trying to think of how many times she's shown up in the MCU probably what four times at least two? Me and

Chad:

let me yes he was like the the whole you know the coolant you know she was the coolant that was basically young hot you know and and basically like, was pretty cool. And then you got to somewhat of connection with I was like okay, well this is that man, you know, which I was kind of wondering by like, the first ones like what? What happened uncle Ben because Ben is not even like on the spider man took it as like, they're just gonna have Spider Man be Spider Man. Well, no. Defining death has to happen apparently. And many died and I was like, oh my god

Kevin:

did a good job it. I didn't expect it was going to happen. I think that that's the point. You know, it's like, I don't even know that we would have been able to guess it. So it was damn good.

Chad:

Yeah, I didn't guess it out. Honestly. I was like, Okay, well, you know, Spider Man, Spider Man. And then sure enough, boop. She died like, Oh, shit. I fucking socks. So yeah, that would actually that would that would hit hard. And then the other part I liked about it. It was with Daredevil. Spider Man's lawyer.

Kevin:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was really good.

Chad:

Was like, like God, yes. You know, because I always had a thought that maybe the Punisher and their devil wasn't part of the MCU you know, I confirmed it. He is he's definitely part of the MCU so I'm like, Alright, sweet. So when I saw that, like, they kind of like left with me like cool. You know, it was like, This is awesome.

Kevin:

And it's pretty quick into the movie too. Yeah. You know, not even 10 minutes or something. And there he was. So when I went I can hear people behind me go you know, like the boyfriend took the girlfriend and she had no clue. He's that's Daredevil. And she's like it's still gonna happen like it's just been you know, I don't know how many people watch Daredevil the show even even even though was on Netflix one of the biggest streaming services ever but then I like just hearing hearing it though. I was like wait, she doesn't know like yeah, like the at least the boyfriend knew you know you can tell he was the one Yeah, we're gonna go see this spider man. He exactly daredevils there.

Chad:

Fuck ya know what I saw when I installed Daredevil like not in spider man but in Netflix series. I liked it I liked a lot I thought it was nitty gritty is the same thing with like the Punisher I have the same feel like Dude, this is awesome. You know this is like, it's like you can tell when Matt Murdock was fighting everyone as Daredevil. And he was in Daredevil I don't think at the time but he was based wearing a black mask and regular clothes. He was like You can tell it's all just guys out of breath you could beat the crap out of Pebble also you seem like we should just go after it man. I was like dude, this is fucking badass. I liked the show it was pretty cool. I was like all about it same thing with Punisher I was I do fuck yes definitely like what they're doing with their with the superheroes come on over just they're real people. But you know, they also kick ass at the same time so I thought was really fucking cool.

Kevin:

Yep, they had the perfect human element I guess. Yeah.

Chad:

I think is what really really basically sells it is that you know you have Batman you know? He's like one of the superheroes that is does how many superpowers and basically is a super goddamn rich, but you know, you don't really see him really like taking a shit man. That was fucking tough type situation. You know, you might see one or two. When he first begins, you know, like, you know, the Christian Bale. You can kind of when he was training to be Batman. And he's like, okay, yeah, he's, he's out of breath, but really not really out of breath. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But then you see the, how the MCU is handling their superheroes like wow, he's, he's really out of breath. He's like, really tired. So like, I like I like that little detail. You know what I mean? Definitely, yeah.

Kevin:

No, that's That's true. I think you're right, because they come off as they're just perfect. Yes. And they don't have any breathing problems after you know.

Chad:

Exactly how this they're running literally a marathon like a 10k marathon and they're like, I can do another one might get the fuck out of here Jimbo. No, like no, like I'm sorry like I was in the military and I even ran like dude I can't run like probably 10 feet with a freakin full body armor and freaking just taken off there's no way I'm you get tired so goddamn quick. But seeing that in the films is like been there you know, I know how that feels. I mean, yes, yes. I definitely love that part. It was just that little tad bit of just Seeing the blood and all that good, so I like the details like that. But anyways, back to Spider Man, I definitely enjoyed that freakin movie, especially with do goblin. Goblin was the best one. Absolutely the freedom. Oh, yeah. My God. I thought he he was freaking awesome. True. When I saw him I was like, Okay, I was first kind of worried of Oh electrodes coming back he's like, I'm great. And like electro in The Amazing Spider Man. I was like yeah, come on.

Kevin:

You know Jamie Foxx did great. You know, maybe it was the character it's just hard to it was is that Jamie Foxx Jamie Foxx is that right actor? Yeah, it's not a fun. He's just how he was written.

Chad:

It was just like, I don't like this electro it was like, even after he got elected and got powers. He didn't become like, cool. Like, you know, we saw in the movie, where he had his hair cut didn't have a comb over anymore. I mean, he looked like a guy that was just kind of mentally handicapped. I want to say I might some that might sound weird, but you know what I mean? It was very much like, really weird. They have see Jamie Foxx that way. It's like, I don't know, like trailer this way. No, because the common book slideshow is very,

Kevin:

you know, isn't the real skinny one or is just ridiculous with the electricity? Yeah, like a mask and helmet. Yeah.

Chad:

Yeah, exactly. I did like the fact to actually put that little detail in the movie with his freakin electric mask thing. I was like, dude, fucking awesome. You know? And I was like, that's cool. You know, but I definitely liked Jamie Foxx as electrode when he was fighting the Spider Man and no way home. I definitely liked that one a lot better. at it. He sounded normal. He was talking normal. He didn't have that. You know, but maybe that was the point. Maybe that was the whole give a guy some power. He might change completely to someone else. So who knows? But right.

Kevin:

Yeah, I think Jamie Foxx is redeeming for him in this role. Yes. And but you know, we could talk about the villains forever. But yeah, you're right. Willem Defoe did great. I think oh my god, there's one right back. You know, it's like he he's this hasn't been 20 years. No, no, it's just like he had he was ready for it again. Exactly. The cameos you know that with the other two Spider Man, I thought they were only going to be in the movie just a little bit. You know, like, oh, yeah, Andrew Garfield. I was like, oh, yeah, there's, there's gonna be like, Oh, hey, how you doing? And then taken off? Nope. They were in that movie a lot longer than I was expecting. So

Chad:

yeah, me too. And I definitely like the part when they're questioning like, you can you don't need web? What? You know, yeah, I

Kevin:

answers Yeah,

Chad:

I don't need that I need you know, I just make it like how, like, I don't know, it's like, how I breathe. I don't think about it. I just do it. You don't have like, a web block is like, Oh, by the way, you know, I didn't have good luck. Like I had a crisis and all that stuff. And like Oh, shit, you know, but yeah, it was really weird. You know, then you see your, you know, the Spider Man in the MCU universe talking about fighting aliens and space. They're like what? Yeah, all

Kevin:

the all the different angles was great. No. Yeah. Trying to trying to juggle all those three different Spider Man. Oh, yeah, it was great.

Chad:

I thought it was an they did an awesome job. And especially when they come to find out like I never find a team. Me either. Me either. So I'm like, okay, great. You know, because he was fighting for Avengers and he's like, just thing to each thing. Treasure tingling thingy and

Kevin:

you know, and for our listeners if you guys have not watched the movie yet, if they just you know, he has been somehow not watching it and pulling the Chad. Oh, go see it. If you haven't or watch it a second time in theaters.

Chad:

If you're a good listener, you probably would already went forward if you haven't seen it and totally said this whole segment. Just spoiling the movie for you. Because if anything like me, I don't like spoilers. I do not even after if I haven't watched something I really want to watch like the Spider Man knowing home I really want to watch it. And basically to how everyone was telling. I was talking about it on tick tock Facebook, Instagram. I tried to avoid it. I knew it was gonna be good. So like this is going to be a Gam damn good movie. I don't want to know anything about it when I go in. Yeah, so if you are listening to this, I'm sorry. I told you already that I'll put timestamps down. So I don't tell you so I give people warnings. So every go Alright, with that we're going to take a break there so you can hear from our sponsors and we are back how you doing Kevin? You take this nice little water break anything?

Kevin:

Oh, yes, definitely. Yes. This little sip. Oh,

Chad:

excuse just a little sip.

Kevin:

Yep, just a little bit.

Chad:

There you go. Freakin I had a little puff of my my thing anyways, moving on. So we're gonna play a game. You want to do this? Okay, what's the game? We're gonna play talking about? To me in live action, what would actually translate really well, and either a series or a movie?

Kevin:

Okay, yeah. Oh, man, I got me right up this alley for me.

Chad:

Exactly. So, you know, I know you've been wanting to do an enemy thing for a while now. And we're gonna do it this time. Right? But now I got nice little things. I know, I was talking about the beginning of show that I have a fun little noise thing. So if it's a bad idea, completely dumb, we're going to be playing this like no. Disappointment. No, that's gonna be horrible. I'm going to flush it down. So we're never going to hear about this again. We're never going to talk about and once you flush your toilet, we flushed in the toilet. There's no way coming back up. Right? There's, it's not gonna happen even with the plunger, even with the plunger, you know? So then we also got like, if it's really good idea, we're gonna freakin punch it to the frickin moon. And have it explode the moon. So we're gonna, like, press it. And if we're not sure, we're gonna be like, Hey, we made a decision. We don't know. You know? That's what that is.

Kevin:

Me got it. Yeah. Haha, got

Chad:

an idea. We made a decision, but we don't want to be a bad host. And it was I'm moving on. So what would you want to see as a live action movie? So let's talk about this for for bait for a live action animation, or live action movie or show? It needs to be more reality based to a point right? So it can't be like just crazy amount of robots or anything like that. If we don't want the technology for it would be a horrible idea to make. Either a show or movie. Take for instance. I found this one I thought was freaking amazing. I think I told you about this one is I am hero. I am a hero.

Kevin:

Right. Okay. Yeah. You're talking about this? A couple hours back? Yeah,

Chad:

yeah, I saw this. And I just happen to stumble across it. And I have automation. I really don't take a look at the live action section genres. So I just try to stay away from those because usually they do a bad move. I mean, what was it? They did really well. The Cowboy Bebop on the Netflix series. I love that one. Actually. I like that one a lot. I was I Okay, great. So you really got to thinking what really makes a good, you know, transition for manga or animation to an actual base strain or a series. So like, I saw I am hero and I saw this manga dude, it's horrifying. This thing is horrifying. It's horror, like zombie apocalypse type situation, which really did really well the live action, and they think came out in 2015 or 2016. And did really well. And it looks good. I haven't seen it. I want to see it as mate. It's just sewing the trailers with it's like you see them transform how the CJ was just right. It wasn't too much. And it was a little it has a little bit of goofiness, but not like to a point where it's not like okay, this is bullshit type situation really can't that takes away the heart factor of it. That's what least I saw on the trailer. I've heard nothing but good things about this anime. So any anime that has to be like more robotic and outrageous moves? I don't think I'd really translate well to a live action movie or series. But yeah, nothing. It can't be like outrageous, like robotic, you know, can't have crazy robotics or too outrageous or too outrageous of like kung fu moves or anything like that, because I don't think it translate really well. That's just my opinion. Anyways, what do you think, Kevin?

Kevin:

Yeah, if I you know, I love Mobile Suit Gundam. And that that started in the 70s, like late 70s. And yes, yeah, that would. Yeah, I think you're right, it has to be absolutely done. Perfect.

Chad:

That's more like a big screen time. Because you need a lot of CGI work. A lot of, you know, model work, it need a big budget, it would have to have a big budget for something that big,

Kevin:

especially if there's just these big moving things that are like you said, not in real life then yeah, it's it's kind of hard for your brand to go Yeah, okay. Yeah.

Chad:

I mean, they didn't like the Pacific Rim movie. You know, with that franchise? I can see that happening with Gundam because I thought about Gundam when I first saw this movie is like, okay, no Pacific worms kind of like Gundam Wing. And it this would actually translate really well, but it would need a big budget. And a lot of CGI work. I think it would work that at that moment, but an actual like television series. I don't see that working out. You know, I mean,

Kevin:

yeah. And have to be some good actors good writing.

Chad:

Exactly. Like if you have like Cowboy Bebop, right. Cowboy Bebop has been I enjoyed it. I really did. They did have CGI work, but it wasn't like CGI until they went out to outer space but if they don't matter space, or like showing the ship, it doesn't really have that many CGI work. You know, I mean, that that like the big Cowboy Bebop actually going to the dock, you know, I mean, the actual ship going into the dock you kind of see a side view of it, but didn't look reading Oculus, it was like to pretty good. It was just right.

Kevin:

We're getting better with our CGI because I I was worried we're gonna have a little bit of, you know, sorry Firefly fans, but yeah, Firefly that show. We were at that weird beginning of 3d was very clear that it was 3d. Like, I don't know if you've watched Firefly?

Chad:

I have not. I've seen parts. I've seen parts of it. You know, I wasn't born on a rock or anything. But you know, at this time, I think I did see little bits and pieces of it. I didn't really catch my eye. And because I didn't get the whole story with it. I found out more stuff like later on in life, but I never really wanted to watch it because the jobs we didn't

Kevin:

have, right. But yeah, the CGI those not especially today's standards. It's not there. And it's very clear that it's it is not it takes you out of out of the show a little bit nowadays. Yeah, I don't know how it was if you were like a new fan watching it. Or a new viewer watching it. But yeah, at least Cowboy Bebop for a modern show. It was not jarring.

Chad:

No, exactly. I mean, because you know you have a space spending 100 that goes around and like even watching it was goofy at times. Right? But it was like I think they purposely did a goofy because even on Cowboy Bebop the animation, the anime, which I totally loved by the way, I loved anime, but freakin when it has like the, you know, the cowboys and cowgirls. You know, come get your you know, that TV show. Do you like commercials and things? They were Yeah, yeah. Kind of like the actual show for cut you know, go get your bounty and this is basically shows the oh, you know, this bounty isn't good. You know, this boundary is good, whatever. But that actually was goofy. But I think it was post purpose was supposed to be goofy that purposely so I was like, okay, I can handle that. I don't mean, but I saw one. It totally broke my heart. I had turned off when I first saw this. I was a big fan of Fullmetal Alchemist. I was a huge fan. I watched Full Metal Alchemist. And then I saw the Brotherhood. Which I thought the Brotherhood was original. It was better than the original. But I love that show. Right? Me and the wife both love the show. We still live action. I turn that badge off. Yeah,

Kevin:

I haven't watched that one. So

Chad:

I turned it off. I couldn't watch like this is cheesy as all hell. What the hell they do? I was like, Nope, can't watch it. So I had to basically turn it off. So after that, I haven't really watched live action. There's been some live action anime I've been watched that it was a manga or you know or a TV show turn to live action one they're mainly horror ones though. The ones I actually enjoyed was more horror genre. Kind of like you know it's out there but it's supposed to be out there in it's kind of scary at the same time. So

Kevin:

yeah, as long as the Gore's good. Yeah, exactly.

Chad:

And I'm very much getting older reading comic books also I'm very much into the gore more very much into the more darker side or a more you know, I'm not really much into like the you know, even reading comic books. I do have like I do buy you know, Batman, you know Superman all that stuff but it's still like unless you're talking about like, you know, the Joker wore or anything like that and yeah, I would definitely have to rethink that was more dark when it comes to Batman. But Superman I haven't really read anything too dark set for this. I know this new series of coming out that called deceased for Superman which he's the zombie so I'm actually kind of look forward to that. But that's pretty much it. You know what I mean? As an adult? I'm more into you know, like fake friends. I think the last dc comm book I actually got was swampthing Greenhill number one I just got that in was it yesterday the day before? I've read it yesterday so like, it was actually really good. Like oh, wow, this is getting it because it's dark. It's supposed to be the rot in the red and you know, the gray and all that stuff in green and it's supposed to be this have this horror factor to it. But anything else very much light hearted like The Flash and coming in doesn't interest you anymore? You know? I mean, I do I might get it for collection status for maybe possibly sell it for later on for investment purposes, but not to enjoy reading you know what I mean?

Kevin:

And I think that's that I'm going to similar route. So back on the anime manga topic. Berzerk. Have you ever heard that? Oh,

Chad:

my God. Yes. I've seen that. I've seen the anime. I haven't read the books, but it's

Kevin:

good in 90s I think it was 1997 they did the show the current, you know, the anime. And then the, I think there was a 3d animated show now that they've done like four or five years ago. I heard that was okay. But it's just the tone that the manga is one of my favorites. It's just it's serious. It's blood gore.

Chad:

Yes, very serious. And then that one I think would be really good as a live action movie or a series I think that would really translate Well, because you do have to do CGI work right? Because it'll be more of a horror factor. But I think it'll work really goddamn well as a live action. I think it would be freaking awesome for a live action adaptation. I think that'd be awesome

Kevin:

had had the quality of like Game of Thrones or oh my god things and they took a dead serious Yeah, I'd be happy.

Chad:

Oh yeah, Big time, big time. Another one I think would be really good. It's called Temboo Have you heard of this one?

Kevin:

No, I haven't.

Chad:

So this one actually came through one of my followers. I asked this question what would be the next on tick tock? I asked him I asked my followers what would be the next best anime show like a live action anime show? So they actually responded and one was timbu I never heard about this anime so I had to look into it. It this would be an awesome great no and awesome live action anime. This is base it's this is fighting. This is like UFC fighting style type situation right? Dude, I was getting excited when I saw this like fuck yeah, I gotta watch this. You know this has happened during the time of you know you UFC first started back I think 93 or some shit like that when the very first you know, you get this ring a basically have two people doesn't matter how heavy you are, how like you are, you're fighting doesn't matter what your background is. And fighting doesn't matter. If you are a sumo wrestler, to a boxer, all that stuff. So basically, it's this kind of like the same thing. But it's an enemy where you have this fighter that basically is brand new to Japan, I think she was from Brazil, that moved to Japan and started a mixed martial arts fighting, you know, club or whatever. And this girl who was like the main vocab, vocab and broke has say for me,

Kevin:

protagonist,

Chad:

thank you practiced. She's like, she's violent. She's, she's a fighter to be violent. She basically will crush your world. If you think you're good. She will make you think you're nothing to that point. So when she fights this fighter who's this girl from Brazil, she loves fighting, she doesn't believe fighting is violence. And she you know, she basically wants to improve her skills. She's basically a Goku, right? Versus of a Gita, basically. So Goku is a little bit more violent than that. But

Kevin:

yeah, check that one out to them.

Chad:

But yeah, it's actually guys basically out fighting this girl who just, whoops everyone just physically physical genius, basically, versus this fighter who just wants to fight and just have fun, you know, which blows his girl's mind, other girls mind for who is like the biggest, you know, the the best fighter around or whatever. But yeah, that would be really good. I think that would be a really good adaptation and actually really well because it has emotional standpoints, and also has character development, really big on character development. And it's more realistic, where it's not like Sony so much. Not too crazy. When someone puts in CGI, you know what I mean?

Kevin:

Right? Yeah, it's not as drastic as a spaceship in space.

Chad:

Yes. Oh, God. Speaking of that, someone actually talked about what was it? Was it Space Dandy, or was it outlaw outlaw star?

Kevin:

Oh, yeah. That's one of my favorites from from the 90s. But

Chad:

I enjoyed it. I like outlaw star right? I you know, and I hate saying this, but it'd be a horrible, horrible, I mean, flush it down the toilet. We're not talking about that again. It would be a horrible habit to adaptation to the whole thing. We have been doing that. At all this whole time. We've been talking it's gonna

Kevin:

it's gonna ask you what it is. And then we haven't done this.

Chad:

Okay, let's go berserk. berserk. Yes. best decision ever. I think that'd be freaking awesome. Temboo Gundam. Oh, Mobile Suit Gundam was no, not not gonna do now. Temboo. Tempo to the moon. To the Moon. Yes. I think that'd be freaking awesome. Yeah, I think tempo would be really good. Let's go back to the Gundam part. Um, you know what, let's do this one. Instead of flushing the toilet, I'm going to bring that out of the toilet. Let's just kind of do this. They kind of it's we're in the middle. So we're in the middle. Because mainly in my work. It might work if you make it into a high budget movie. Yeah, like Pacific Rim or something like that. That'd be good. But as a TV show, no. Horrible,

Kevin:

horrible idea. Well, if it was a movie, and I don't think it's going to work anymore. I've mentioned it to you. Just havin fun talking. But I think probably 10 years ago Elijah would he would have done perfect as the main character. But yeah, it's it's he's starting to get there. You know, an agent, I don't think would work anymore. He won't be able to pull off a teenager.

Chad:

Oh, you honestly would be surprised. I think they could. I think they I think he can pull it off where they can make it that way but I can't see it again. There's another problem with I have with live action Emmys they try to keep it as much the manga as possible, which I respect that. I wish I would the kind of dealing with comic books, right. But the problem is sometimes manga doesn't really translate really well on the big screen, or the small screen, and they still try to make it as the manga. And it's just like my three right that How about this one? Samurai Champloo

Kevin:

and know about that when I was gonna be? It's gotta be the right cast? I don't know if you want to copy it exactly like. Yeah, that's, I think that's an in between one. Right? Because it's a fun show, though.

Chad:

No, definitely. It's like, I love the anime. I watched the anime on TV when Funimation was a thing. Because back when I moved out, we didn't have I didn't have enough money to buy like we didn't have a Roku, or anything like that, because streaming services wasn't really a thing. I mean, they had streaming services, but Netflix was still given out DVDs on the mail. Yes, kids. And I said you heard that correctly. Netflix wasn't always a streaming service. Netflix was actually a movie rental place where you actually went online and ordered these things. I had to mail you the DVD. I know. And you had days for it. So yeah, you know, days snail mail? Not even email. Was it that and something else? Gamefly was the same thing. Those those two things,

Kevin:

you know if they're around anymore? Yeah. I don't

Chad:

even know they are either. As frickin crazy. But yes, anyways, Samurai Champloo samurai Samurai Champloo we can we're going like left field now. So Samurai Champloo I think it was this would be they would have to do it. Right? I agree with you. They have to be, they would have to do right. Because although this is like it is based on a real world event based during the Edo period in Japan. And a little bit of issue with morose fighting stance and abilities. translating that to a live action. Movie or like a show? I don't think it'll really work out because his stance is mainly all about breakdancing. Right, right. So, I mean, the other guy, I forgot his name. Sorry, I didn't write it down. But the guy with glasses. He's like his partner. I'm gonna practice myself later for forgetting his name. He's more of old school. Yes, he's more of a traditional Shomrei. But he's like gifted and more of a scholar and all that stuff another and immergas kind of like more wild man, I will just basically swing my sword. It really don't see that translating? Well, we're on the big screen or in the small screen, to be honest. Right? Although I do love would love to see it. And even if it's goofy, a little bit of goofy in there, because it mirrors abilities and his moves and a stance. I think I'd still watch it. To be honest. The thing is, so watch, it

Kevin:

got to be the right cast, right? Pass. And so

Chad:

the right cast, you have to get the planet, right, you just can't. You know, I mean, it's very, that could be really bad, or really good. Depends how you write it and who you got so as to be with the right people. So I want to say this. With this. Not to the moon. But it could be enjoyable. Maybe a homerun. Yeah, I want to say your home run. See that? You're going like too far. You're reaching out for the stars where you're, you can only reach like on top of your computer. So don't do that. But you know, I can see it. I can see I still watch it. You know. Another one Space Dandy? Well, yeah, that

Kevin:

one that one. I barely watched that one. That was That one felt like a rip off of Cowboy Bebop in Atlanta star like a coyote, which

Chad:

isn't? Yes. I was just about to say this is gonna be more like Cowboy Bebop than anything else. Yes,

Kevin:

yeah. Any you know, jump jump back of Cowboy Bebop. The anime is great. Like we were talking about but you love the Netflix show? I haven't finished it. You know, and, you know, I didn't include that or say that. But yeah, they canceled you know, right after one season really fast. So that was it for that show. Yeah, that that other space show.

Chad:

The Space Dandy Space Dandy. Yeah.

Kevin:

Did you watch the whole show?

Chad:

I haven't seen that. I remember watching it. I don't remember like a lot of it. I had to go back and rewatch some of it. But I think it'll I don't think it'll do very well because you have a big giant goofy robot. That's like a triangle and major C CGI for that one major major. I mean, I think it's very much like Cowboy Bebop, but I don't think it really pull like Cowboy Bebop, you know what I mean? So I think that one would be like strictly disappointment down the toilet. What do you think?

Kevin:

Yeah, yeah, I would say

Chad:

disappointment down the toilet. We're not talking about Space Dandy again. He doesn't exist in the live action series.

Kevin:

Then did you ever watch the Rooney kitchen?

Chad:

The Rooney kitchen? Oh my god was it sounds so familiar?

Kevin:

It's a red haired samurai that was a he was a killer and then he eventually just stopped. He was like nah no more. So he has a sword that he Oh

Chad:

yes, yeah, that's actually a live action. I've never seen that

Kevin:

for those movies.

Chad:

Yes, yes

Kevin:

I did wrong. I'm sorry if i

Chad:

i love the enemy. So that was one of my top five enemies. I totally love

Kevin:

that. Yeah, whole enemies. Great. I just I just picked up the manga. I hope it's good.

Chad:

Oh my god. Yes. It's very good.

Kevin:

They're like 19 or 20 volumes of the manga. Mm hmm. But the the live action movie was really good. The first one at least

Chad:

I enjoyed it. Yeah. The first one I enjoyed the first one. I did it was still a little bit you know, is pushing it a little? Yeah. Yeah. It's like okay, but you know, I did enjoy watching it was I'd liked it a lot. The only thing I don't understand the the bad guy the hole in there. He had a very small sword, which isn't really made for fighting is basically it was I think was mainly for killing yourself with back in the Edo period in Japan. buku. Yes. Or something like that. Yes. Simple goo. You know that one. But it's supposed to be. I remember seeing this little sword and in this guy just fighting them. He's like, Oh, no, he has this sword. I forgot the name of it is the short little samurai sword. It's for defense and attack. It was like, what? Yeah, like, that's not something to be really close fights. Yeah, it was like, I don't know. I'm pretty sure a long sword will beat the crap out of that little tiny little ship. But hey, whatever, you know, the anime. But yeah, I did. I definitely did enjoy that whole the whole anime. I

Kevin:

definitely love that. Yeah. As long sword. Yes. But that's already a live action.

Chad:

So that doesn't count. Sorry. I don't I know. I know. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that to you. You know, that's fine. That's okay. Did we what did we say by all star? I think we touched on a

Kevin:

you didn't didn't think that you know it so? Well. You know, why was that? It wouldn't

Chad:

work because the frickin spaceships do kung fu.

Kevin:

Oh, right. Right, right. Yeah,

Chad:

they they do punches and then they have this little side arm on the weapon on the ship itself. And it's like little Uzi to do that. What? Row? Oh, please don't please don't let's first No,

Kevin:

that's a horrible idea. And then at least the first Rooney kitchen movie. What would you give the Rooney

Chad:

kitchen when I that's already live action money.

Kevin:

What would you give it? What would you give him?

Chad:

I would you know, I enjoyed it. Okay, I enjoyed it. I didn't love it. I enjoyed it. I loved the anime a lot more than I liked the live action, but I did enjoy watching it. So I you know, I gave you that. I give you that.

Kevin:

I appreciate that.

Chad:

It's for medium just letting you know. So there's this other one, like a record of Lotus war.

Kevin:

Okay, yeah, they didn't they could be kind of a Lord of rings. Lord of the Rings style. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That was done right to though. That's the other issue. Oh, yes.

Chad:

Yes, you got definitely do it. Right. And you gotta have the right ears for the enemy else. Because their enemy else are very big year. So you got to do that without making that look goofy.

Kevin:

Yeah. Little plastic years. You know?

Chad:

He acts zactly Oh, God. Well, yeah. I think the record of Lotus war would be really good adaptation because it's a it's a high fantasy realistic sword fighting. And I you know, we got some magic here and there with it in your be CGI, of course. But I think it would. I think if they put the CGI just right. It wouldn't make it look ridiculous. You know, I mean, yeah, they look just Okay, okay, you know, just right on. But yes. So I'll probably give that

Kevin:

Yeah, that's right. We got we got a lot of you know, think those would be perfect. Gone. Rare. Yes. For more and more like hold on. Wow.

Chad:

Chefs kiss Exactly.

Kevin:

Send me got me. Whatever the hell that man.

Chad:

It means mare be a positive thing

Kevin:

and promise.

Chad:

So there's this other one. One of the fathers actually brought up. I never heard about this one. It's called Vagabond heroes one okay.

Kevin:

Yeah, I started collecting the mangas I found the VIS big editions. There's like three in one. I haven't haven't read them yet, but they're supposed to be great.

Chad:

So this one hasn't been hit enemy doesn't have any animation, but I think this was it's been out a while, you know? So exactly. It's been up for I think I can say years. I want to say 90s. I could be wrong, right? Yeah. Could be even or later than that. It could have been like 70s 80, something like that. But this is really freaking awesome. I know. You said you haven't already I read bits and pieces. I haven't read the whole thing. But I after reading some of this and seeing the reviews, I was like, wow, yeah,

Kevin:

just flipping through the pages. It was great artwork, it kind of gave me the feeling of Berzerk that quality. So, yes, I think it's by the artwork loans. Yeah, it would be a must. And that's probably why I picked him up.

Chad:

I think this would be a great live action anime. I think it would be, although it hasn't hit animation yet. I think this would be if you put this in a movie, I think this would be awesome. It tells a story about a samurai and I think would be just it's nothing ridiculous. You know, I mean, you might have some CGI movements there. But really, honestly, it's just downright down to earth. Old Town Japan, you know, Old Town, old timey Japan, I think this would work really well. So I'm going to give this whole bunch whole bunch. I think this would be really play out really well.

Kevin:

So and I wonder if that you know, Vagabond would if it was handled, it seems more realistic then Rooney kitchen, I guess is they were in the kitchen as some kind of crazy. If you recall the Oh yeah. Especially the anime where the humans Shishio combined. And it was like some energy blast ball. I doubt that's in vagabond. You know? Like,

Chad:

I totally forgot about that. Yeah.

Kevin:

When I watched that, I was like, Okay, well, yeah, yeah. And I am afraid to even get translated to the movies. But yeah, I think because vagabonds more grounded and realistic, I think. Yeah, I agree with you.

Chad:

So someone actually even said, Attack on Titan in one piece.

Kevin:

Okay, Attack on Titan. Yeah. Well, I think they're trying to work on that one.

Unknown:

As are they?

Kevin:

Yeah, I believe so. I know it because because the the the monsters are the Giants. They're Katherine weird. And they're, they're creepy. And the bad CGI could really kill this.

Chad:

I think it's gonna kill it. Because it's nothing but CGI. I'm sorry. You can't. I mean, this is not gonna work out without CGI. It is going to be a heavy, heavy CGI film. And it's going to be it would have little gadgets. Yeah, it'll have the gore, but it's still below budget as fuck. You know what I mean? It's like, it's going to be going back to watch an old Jason movies. Well, that was really good. But even still, you know? You know, it's just, you see this giant thing, taking a bite out of, you know, somebody and it's supposed to be, you know, the enemy that frickin showed, like the horror, they did a really good job with that, you know, before the Creator killed his wife, you know, but,

Kevin:

and I, you know, I don't know if we've made it clear during this kind of, you know, is this good or bad idea? I think, like, yeah, anime can do better than a live action. I you know, we've been kind of talking about that. But yeah, like things should stay just as an anime if they're gonna get that far. Exactly. And I think if a live action happens, then that shows you maybe there's a bigger fan base or one that comes to mind for me is, you know, James Cameron. He's a huge fan of Alita Battle Angel. So he's, oh, yeah. Yeah, that was we've seen an o va in the 90s. Mm hmm. I've never watched that one. But battling is a movie. Enjoyed it.

Chad:

Yes. Very much so and I think they played it. Well, they actually had higher budgets. And they actually had really good actors and actresses playing with it. So I like that the Alita Battle Angel is actually really fucking good. As a live action anime adaptation I was like dude, that's as I enjoyed watching it. So it was really good. But when it comes to like, Attack on Titan, one piece nor toe, you know, Dragonball Z, any of those craps please

Kevin:

don't Yeah, and you just mentioned one piece so yeah, it's gonna they're trying to make it on Netflix right now. So

Chad:

shut up. Are you serious? Yeah, that one piece?

Kevin:

Yes, they're trying to so I think it's it's gonna get pretty close to release in here this year. So I don't know if they're just gonna do a movie. But yeah,

Chad:

I don't want to see that. I honestly I would not want to see it. I love one piece animation. I love the anime. I can watch forever it gets its long, right? I can I can deal with the data. animation but a live action. No freakin Thank you.

Kevin:

Right so thank you the I think it's coming out this year so I have not looked into much details about it but yeah, no another so

Chad:

I'm gonna look that up right now and I hope God I just Googled one piece Netflix shut the fuck up they are they are they are trying to make this to a freakin television series.

Kevin:

So that's that's kind of what I was getting at is do we need do we need live action?

Chad:

Oh No Please no. Please no no four days ago IGN Netflix lives action one piece series began production shot up. No, no that should be disappointment as all hell. Please don't I mean, I hope I'm wrong. Don't get me wrong. I'm hope I'm wrong. But no, please God. No, God, no, that's horrible idea.

Kevin:

It's a huge story, so it's gonna be a big undertaking so

Chad:

I'm gonna vomit. I swear to God, this is too much blue. Yeah, I think it's just gonna be just it's gonna be goofy looking. You know? I mean, I mean, don't be wrong. The animation is supposed to be there's a lot of goofiness in it. And also, but as a movie, no goddamn Thank you. Definitely don't want that. That's horrible. That's a horrible idea. So we're moving on. I mean, I'm gonna vomit in my mouth and swallow it.

Kevin:

Yeah, I'm looking at right now. I guess he hoping to pronounce his name. In in necky. Good. Good boy. He's gonna be Louis. Neck. He could die. Yeah,

Chad:

I am seeing it.

Kevin:

Mexican actor. Well, that's good. I mean, will diversity

Chad:

but still no, no, it'd be horrible. We'll see. I hope I'm wrong. God, I'm hope I'm wrong. They did. Well, Netflix did good on Cowboy Bebop, so please, pray to anime gods and make sure this is a good goddamn movie. Because if they mess up one piece for me, I would be so pissed. No. So we're moving on to jellyfish princess.

Kevin:

Okay, I'm not familiar with this at all.

Chad:

So this is one of the followers that came over. She was tired of she wants something for the girl she said so she wants them for the girls and nothing too much. It's not gonna it's not adventurous. It's not, you know, too heavy on CGI. Because it's not. This is a very much real tiny romantic anime. And I think really work well as a television series, but not for me. No, I mean, yeah.

Kevin:

Well, I mean, yeah, if you're into it, you know, guys and gals.

Chad:

Yeah. I think anything like romantic, you know, anime, I think transfer really well, because it's more realistic, right? It's not, you know, it's not too crazy. You know, or, you know, the pervy part you might have to worry about, but I really think it'd be, you know, transfer really well with either a small screen or the big screen. I don't see it being really popular. You know what I mean?

Kevin:

Yeah, it had to be a series I think if it movie like for that I am not familiar with it, but the way it sounds, I think, yeah, maybe a series of it was done. Right.

Chad:

Okay. I mean, that's right. The jellyfish Princess so what do you say? In between for sure. So I say this. I think it works really well. As an adaptation as a like a live action anime. I'll give it that. But ultimately, no, no, no, thank you. Don't want it. I wouldn't want to watch it. Let's just say that. I wouldn't want to watch it. That's why I read it that way. That's just me. But hey,

Kevin:

look, Sweden actually isn't the enemy actually.

Chad:

Yeah, it is. It's it's an anime. So I saw a little clips of it. It's, you know, it's okay. If you like the romantic, kind of like, Ooh, you have a crush on girl in the back and the whole high school type settings, but I don't have romantic rant. animes I'm not really I'm not fond of them. I don't care about them. Not me sports. But you know when I saw Tim poo though, I was kind of like, intrigued by it. Because I don't like sports animes either. Not a real big fan.

Kevin:

The other they're really popular though. At least in Japan Yeah. Anime Oh I don't like a lot of people love them. Why do people like those sports is the was the tennis one the game of football or soccer? Whatever you want to call it?

Chad:

I think it's this Yeah, soccer. Whatever football. Yeah.

Kevin:

And then they got my fear that I did watch was Hajime no Ippo that was a great anime. That sounds familiar. It's a it's a boxy anatomy. So

Chad:

Oh, yes. Yeah, yes.

Kevin:

I was a sucker for you know, Rocky. So it was just easy for me to see a guy that wanted to He just he just wants to become a boxer and then he's just great. But you know of course it's not easy so of course yeah that was a good one that was a good sports you

Chad:

know definitely I can see that I can see like you know sports enemies I can see that really well transfer really well to romantic ones same thing transferring really well big screen small screen. I was a big fan of rocky but I'm not you know when it comes to like sports enemies. I'm not really into them.

Kevin:

So I'm like, they got a lot of characters so they can Yeah.

Chad:

Oh, exactly. But people usually want like, you know, people that they brought up the list they want like Naruto, you know? Freakin Dragonball Z. No goddamn Thank you. They they try the Dragonball Z live action

Kevin:

movie. Yeah. Whoa.

Chad:

No,

Kevin:

thank you. That was a bad time for it to come out to now.

Chad:

We don't need the caches seamless to come over and playing Dragonball Z. No, thank you. Although shameless was really good, right. But I think that's all the time we have.

Kevin:

Well, I appreciate you talking about anime and manga to you. Oh,

Chad:

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